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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://chocolateandvodka.com/2009/02/28/are-cliffhangers-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-28201</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could agree with you about &lt;i&gt;Little Brother&lt;/i&gt;, but I thought it badly written, simplistic, and altogether one of the weakest YA novels published last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could agree with you about <i>Little Brother</i>, but I thought it badly written, simplistic, and altogether one of the weakest YA novels published last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Suw</title>
		<link>http://chocolateandvodka.com/2009/02/28/are-cliffhangers-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-28045</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, everyone. 

I think the most interesting thing has been the feeling that I really already knew the answer to my question. ;) And whilst I&#039;m not great at cliffhangers, I&#039;m even worse at chapters! My main building blocks are scenes, and if splitting it up like that doesn&#039;t work I&#039;ll have to learn how to think in chapters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, everyone. </p>
<p>I think the most interesting thing has been the feeling that I really already knew the answer to my question. <img src='http://chocolateandvodka.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  And whilst I&#8217;m not great at cliffhangers, I&#8217;m even worse at chapters! My main building blocks are scenes, and if splitting it up like that doesn&#8217;t work I&#8217;ll have to learn how to think in chapters!</p>
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		<title>By: giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have said, use with caution. But use when necessary. I&#039;m working on some fiction for kids the same age as my son (6-8 year-olds), and I know from practice stories on him that mild cliffhangers - moments of great mystery or peril - can generate enormous excitement. But then they don&#039;t want to hang around to find out what happens next, they want the answer RIGHT AWAY. So it&#039;s good for creating &quot;unputdownability&quot; (I hope).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have said, use with caution. But use when necessary. I&#8217;m working on some fiction for kids the same age as my son (6-8 year-olds), and I know from practice stories on him that mild cliffhangers &#8211; moments of great mystery or peril &#8211; can generate enormous excitement. But then they don&#8217;t want to hang around to find out what happens next, they want the answer RIGHT AWAY. So it&#8217;s good for creating &#8220;unputdownability&#8221; (I hope).</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Ian Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Ian Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also depends on whether you&#039;re using chapters.  Not everyone does.  One book I read recently simply had two looooong sections of about two hundred words each.  There was a cliffhanger in the middle but it wasn&#039;t resolved exactly.  There was a time gap between the two in which said cliffhanger was resolved off-page (so to speak).

The problem with cliffhangers is that unless you&#039;re careful you&#039;ll find yourself working the story around them.  That happened a lot in Doctor Who and still does in 24.  The storytelling is motoring along perfectly fine but then the close of the episode comes along and everyone essentially takes a detour for the cliffhanger which is then resolved inconsequentially the following week and then the storytelling gets back on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also depends on whether you&#8217;re using chapters.  Not everyone does.  One book I read recently simply had two looooong sections of about two hundred words each.  There was a cliffhanger in the middle but it wasn&#8217;t resolved exactly.  There was a time gap between the two in which said cliffhanger was resolved off-page (so to speak).</p>
<p>The problem with cliffhangers is that unless you&#8217;re careful you&#8217;ll find yourself working the story around them.  That happened a lot in Doctor Who and still does in 24.  The storytelling is motoring along perfectly fine but then the close of the episode comes along and everyone essentially takes a detour for the cliffhanger which is then resolved inconsequentially the following week and then the storytelling gets back on track.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Myers</title>
		<link>http://chocolateandvodka.com/2009/02/28/are-cliffhangers-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-27906</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use cliffhangers if they create the structure and experience you want from the book. 

Chapters mark a structural break in the narrative. The break is usually there to indicate a transition. That transition may start and end before or after the break. 

Cory doesn&#039;t always use cliffhangers in Little Brother but he sets up your curiosity about what will happen next, and the chapter breaks mark that you are going to have your curiosity sated a bit and see the action move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use cliffhangers if they create the structure and experience you want from the book. </p>
<p>Chapters mark a structural break in the narrative. The break is usually there to indicate a transition. That transition may start and end before or after the break. </p>
<p>Cory doesn&#8217;t always use cliffhangers in Little Brother but he sets up your curiosity about what will happen next, and the chapter breaks mark that you are going to have your curiosity sated a bit and see the action move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://chocolateandvodka.com/2009/02/28/are-cliffhangers-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-27896</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliffhangers... a difficult question. I don&#039;t think they&#039;re ever &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt;, per se. They can be useful... or irritating. If I&#039;m just finishing up a chapter before I go to bed, and it ends with, as one poster said, the bus full of gold hanging off the cliff (&quot;Hang on, lads, I&#039;ve got an idea!&quot;), I&#039;ll likely grind my teeth in frustration because dammit, I need my sleep! And some of the most compelling books I&#039;ve read never had a single cliffhanger like that. (&lt;i&gt;The Remains of the Day&lt;/i&gt; comes to mind.) It depends more on the characters than the situation, really. If the characters themselves are compelling, the reader is going to want to find out what happens. I&#039;m reading &lt;i&gt;Mansfield Park&lt;/i&gt; at the moment, and even though I suspect something horrible (in a quietly Austenish way) is going to happen to poor Fanny, I &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to know. (And I&#039;m saying this of the one character in Austen that most people would say is the least compelling of all of her heroines!)

So what I&#039;m saying is, no. You don&#039;t need cliffhangers. If they evolve naturally, so be it. But don&#039;t force them into your story. Focus on your characters. Let them tell you what needs to be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliffhangers&#8230; a difficult question. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re ever <i>necessary</i>, per se. They can be useful&#8230; or irritating. If I&#8217;m just finishing up a chapter before I go to bed, and it ends with, as one poster said, the bus full of gold hanging off the cliff (&#8220;Hang on, lads, I&#8217;ve got an idea!&#8221;), I&#8217;ll likely grind my teeth in frustration because dammit, I need my sleep! And some of the most compelling books I&#8217;ve read never had a single cliffhanger like that. (<i>The Remains of the Day</i> comes to mind.) It depends more on the characters than the situation, really. If the characters themselves are compelling, the reader is going to want to find out what happens. I&#8217;m reading <i>Mansfield Park</i> at the moment, and even though I suspect something horrible (in a quietly Austenish way) is going to happen to poor Fanny, I <i>need</i> to know. (And I&#8217;m saying this of the one character in Austen that most people would say is the least compelling of all of her heroines!)</p>
<p>So what I&#8217;m saying is, no. You don&#8217;t need cliffhangers. If they evolve naturally, so be it. But don&#8217;t force them into your story. Focus on your characters. Let them tell you what needs to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. And... hmm.

Cliffhangers are not necessary, no. A reader is always driven by a desire to know what happens next. As long as the story has an unresolved question that the reader wants answering, ending a chapter or scene on an explicit &#039;oh lord, the hero&#039;s car has just driven off the cliff, how can she possibly survive?&#039; isn&#039;t necessary. It fact, it doesn&#039;t work unless the reader cares about the hero and, equally, it doesn&#039;t ensure a compelling plot.

The example I&#039;d use of a story that doesn&#039;t feature oodles of tension, conflict and drama, yet manages to be utterly captivating... well, it&#039;s illustrated by this clip better than I can explain it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0bHlRQLObU

However, I&#039;m not sure if the &#039;get in early, leave late&#039; method ever really works. For a first draft, yes, but it becomes incredibly hard to justify the padding when you come back for a re-write :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. And&#8230; hmm.</p>
<p>Cliffhangers are not necessary, no. A reader is always driven by a desire to know what happens next. As long as the story has an unresolved question that the reader wants answering, ending a chapter or scene on an explicit &#8216;oh lord, the hero&#8217;s car has just driven off the cliff, how can she possibly survive?&#8217; isn&#8217;t necessary. It fact, it doesn&#8217;t work unless the reader cares about the hero and, equally, it doesn&#8217;t ensure a compelling plot.</p>
<p>The example I&#8217;d use of a story that doesn&#8217;t feature oodles of tension, conflict and drama, yet manages to be utterly captivating&#8230; well, it&#8217;s illustrated by this clip better than I can explain it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0bHlRQLObU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0bHlRQLObU</a></p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not sure if the &#8216;get in early, leave late&#8217; method ever really works. For a first draft, yes, but it becomes incredibly hard to justify the padding when you come back for a re-write <img src='http://chocolateandvodka.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is  a cliffhanger? A &#039;what will happen next?&#039; moment with a bus full of gold hanging over a cliff? Or a situation that is unresolved in some way?

As a child of Doctor Who, the cliffhanger is what (almost quite literally) kept me hanging on from week to week waiting for the next episode. In fact, it still does. But in literature it&#039;s tricky and often overused.

In a written story, rather more than on TV or a film, you maintain interest not with moments of peril and great drama that require a resolution but with emotional interest. And I don&#039;t mean that tediously. In a written story it&#039;s easier to hang the story on internal turmoil or decision making and that can be more compelling and equally cliffhangery.

In print, I find dramatic cliffhangers (esp from chapter to chapter) often quite trite and mechanical, and the tool of a formulaic author: this is the end of the chapter, we must have a desperate situation that needs sorting.  I think that provoking a reader to wonder &#039;I must read on to find out how this will turn out?&#039; is more than adequate. I&#039;m suspicious of authors who stoke up too much anxiety, even if I do sometimes  find it immensely enjoyable. ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is  a cliffhanger? A &#8216;what will happen next?&#8217; moment with a bus full of gold hanging over a cliff? Or a situation that is unresolved in some way?</p>
<p>As a child of Doctor Who, the cliffhanger is what (almost quite literally) kept me hanging on from week to week waiting for the next episode. In fact, it still does. But in literature it&#8217;s tricky and often overused.</p>
<p>In a written story, rather more than on TV or a film, you maintain interest not with moments of peril and great drama that require a resolution but with emotional interest. And I don&#8217;t mean that tediously. In a written story it&#8217;s easier to hang the story on internal turmoil or decision making and that can be more compelling and equally cliffhangery.</p>
<p>In print, I find dramatic cliffhangers (esp from chapter to chapter) often quite trite and mechanical, and the tool of a formulaic author: this is the end of the chapter, we must have a desperate situation that needs sorting.  I think that provoking a reader to wonder &#8216;I must read on to find out how this will turn out?&#8217; is more than adequate. I&#8217;m suspicious of authors who stoke up too much anxiety, even if I do sometimes  find it immensely enjoyable. ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
		<link>http://chocolateandvodka.com/2009/02/28/are-cliffhangers-necessary/comment-page-1/#comment-27874</link>
		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re familiar with the work of Haruki Murakami, he doesn&#039;t use cliffhangers the traditional way that we may be used to in an English novel, yet there&#039;s something about his stories that suck you in and propel you forwards, and what&#039;s amazing is, his stories are not often very complicated. He has intriguing characters that make you want to follow them like a shadow throughout pages that you can&#039;t turn fast enough. This is despite many of his works are continuous reworking of themes and storylines he&#039;s written in the past. And yet, his &quot;Wild Sheep Chase&quot; has one of the tightest plots I&#039;ve ever read in a book. 

On the same token, I&#039;ve read some technically precise detective novels that just don&#039;t do anything for me, cliffhangers or not. So I really don&#039;t think cliffhangers are required. It&#039;s about whether you can make your reader settle into your story and then it&#039;s for you to take them where you want to. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re familiar with the work of Haruki Murakami, he doesn&#8217;t use cliffhangers the traditional way that we may be used to in an English novel, yet there&#8217;s something about his stories that suck you in and propel you forwards, and what&#8217;s amazing is, his stories are not often very complicated. He has intriguing characters that make you want to follow them like a shadow throughout pages that you can&#8217;t turn fast enough. This is despite many of his works are continuous reworking of themes and storylines he&#8217;s written in the past. And yet, his &#8220;Wild Sheep Chase&#8221; has one of the tightest plots I&#8217;ve ever read in a book. </p>
<p>On the same token, I&#8217;ve read some technically precise detective novels that just don&#8217;t do anything for me, cliffhangers or not. So I really don&#8217;t think cliffhangers are required. It&#8217;s about whether you can make your reader settle into your story and then it&#8217;s for you to take them where you want to. <img src='http://chocolateandvodka.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Suw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ticia, yes, good point. In a way it&#039;s a stupid question, but in another way it&#039;s not, because sometimes it&#039;s hard from the inside to know what it is that a story needs. And sometimes the easiest treatment for a story is not what it really needs. So I&#039;m trying to figure out if I&#039;m shying away from working on cliffhangers because it&#039;s easier that way, or because it&#039;s what the story needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ticia, yes, good point. In a way it&#8217;s a stupid question, but in another way it&#8217;s not, because sometimes it&#8217;s hard from the inside to know what it is that a story needs. And sometimes the easiest treatment for a story is not what it really needs. So I&#8217;m trying to figure out if I&#8217;m shying away from working on cliffhangers because it&#8217;s easier that way, or because it&#8217;s what the story needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ticia Isom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ticia Isom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s like asking if someone likes sweets. In the right situation, yes. All the time, probably not. If it suits your writing style, I&#039;m all for it. If it&#039;s an addition, to &quot;hook&quot; me, I&#039;m going to know it. Be true to yourself. I can&#039;t be sucked into a story if I feel the hands pushing me around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s like asking if someone likes sweets. In the right situation, yes. All the time, probably not. If it suits your writing style, I&#8217;m all for it. If it&#8217;s an addition, to &#8220;hook&#8221; me, I&#8217;m going to know it. Be true to yourself. I can&#8217;t be sucked into a story if I feel the hands pushing me around.</p>
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